If it is a day ending in "y" the ATF is overstepping their authority and terrorizing Americans.
I do think the focus on the racial angle is unhelpful. Bryan Malinowski was White and the ATF murdered him, Vicki Weaver was White and they show her holding her baby, most of the people at Waco were White. The ATF is a rogue agency and shows no particular affinity for terrorizing people based on their race.
The only interesting thing about bringing race into it is that the mainstream left media, as far as I know hasn't said a word about this and Al Sharpton isn't hollering away like he did for that other guy in Chicago who literally started shooting at the police.
As horrific as it is, it makes me sick to my stomach to think how much worse this could have been. Hard to believe these agents can sleep at night after terrorizing innocent citizens.
I got that feeling too. The family looked out for their own safety much more than the ATF goons armed up and ready to enter. What gets me were the two flash-bangs. Those things are not easy to aim/control. They shouldn't have been used.
They’re not agents they’re common everyday thug criminals and in cases murderers and should be tried convicted and hung. Like 95%’of alphabet agencies they need to be executive ordered away the same way they were created.
I've got news for you. A black family in any neighborhood in Maryland would not cause one bit of concern. In fact, if you look at DC and Baltimore, and draw concentric circles from their centers, you would see that black families who want better for their families move out of the cities. The more money they make, the further out they go.
I absolutely hate the race angle on this article. It obscures the fact that anyone who enjoys their second amendment rights can be a target by the ATF.
Here is some good reference material for the "AFT" and "AFT agents" (at least that's what the PINO - President In Name Only - Biden calls them).
I have given this list to my city peace officer department and county sheriff's office to ensure they are aware of why this agency is not only anti-constitutional (a.k.a. ILLEGAL), but to also to provide demonstrable evidence why they are deserving of absolutely zero trust and support.
1) “ATF SWAT team raids parttime gun dealer’s Oklahoma home”
I would love to see the "sworn" statement to the ATF by the "known and reliable informant", as well as a record of the supporting information I'm sure they gathered to support the agent's sworn affidavit attached to the search warrant request. Won't be surprised to find out how much is nonexistent or based strictly on hearsay. Does the term "perjury" come to mind? I think the family's lawyer is going to have a field day with this case. Lee, please keep us up to date on this.
One of these days, the BATFE goons with their weapons of war will step into the kill zone of someone who's emplaced directional AP mines and other nasties. Those agents will fully deserve everything they get. Every time they do this, they bring us to the inevitable peasant revolt against their goonery. These jackbooted thugs at ATF need a hard lesson in How To Not Be A Raging Asshole.
Which one of his neighbors called in the anonymous tip, which agents took the anonymous tip as gospel, and what idiot judge signed the warrant? Can you say LAWSUIT??
This type of raid has become the m.o. (modus operendi) of the ATF. Strike hard and violently in pre-dawn, with overwhelming numbers of agents (storm troopers) equipped for combat. Observation and fact finding prior not necessary. Treat women and children as enemy combatants; in fact, consider the entire family (and pets) to be criminals Cause total destruction of property. Do not hesitate to injure or kill victims (for the protection of the storm troopers).
The Founding Fathers had a keen sense of the dangers of a standing army. The ATF is far worse than the FF could have ever imagined. A government agency such as the ATF (and the FBI) has no place in a free America. Disband the ATF, FBI and disarm all other federal agencies.
There's another question that has to be answered. Where did the ATF get a complete list of firearms for Mr. Manley? Did they get it from the local police or the state police? If their warrant was federal, did they get the list from their illegal registry? Do we know?
Nothing says "Happy Thanksgiving!" like an ATF pre-dawn raid with multiple agents with assault weapons and an armored vehicle parked outside your house, resulting in a broken front door, a shell-shocked wife, scared-to-death kids, ruined floors, and dog shit everywhere.
If it is a day ending in "y" the ATF is overstepping their authority and terrorizing Americans.
I do think the focus on the racial angle is unhelpful. Bryan Malinowski was White and the ATF murdered him, Vicki Weaver was White and they show her holding her baby, most of the people at Waco were White. The ATF is a rogue agency and shows no particular affinity for terrorizing people based on their race.
It's too bad I can only like this post once!
The only interesting thing about bringing race into it is that the mainstream left media, as far as I know hasn't said a word about this and Al Sharpton isn't hollering away like he did for that other guy in Chicago who literally started shooting at the police.
I hope the Trump admin shuts them down (along with others in the federal 'alphabet soup').
I'm thankful that he and his wife were already awake, and that he recognized what was happening. The story would have been much different otherwise.
Exactly. If they didn't get up early, one or both of them would be dead.
I’m thinking so would several agents.
Exactly
So ATF screws up another one. How long before they are disbanded.
Hopefully about 20 days, man.
Love your optimism but... I will put down my gun when they are all facedown on the ground, in a Pickwickian sense.
Hppefulle close after Jan 20.
As horrific as it is, it makes me sick to my stomach to think how much worse this could have been. Hard to believe these agents can sleep at night after terrorizing innocent citizens.
I got that feeling too. The family looked out for their own safety much more than the ATF goons armed up and ready to enter. What gets me were the two flash-bangs. Those things are not easy to aim/control. They shouldn't have been used.
Cops don't become psychopaths; psychopaths become cops.
They’re not agents they’re common everyday thug criminals and in cases murderers and should be tried convicted and hung. Like 95%’of alphabet agencies they need to be executive ordered away the same way they were created.
It’s a lawless rogue agency.
ATF has GOT TO GO!!! Absolutely STUPID. Could ruin this man's life. INSANE!!!
Please follow up on the Manley family. ATF has to repair the damage. That agency has been rogue for years.
I've got news for you. A black family in any neighborhood in Maryland would not cause one bit of concern. In fact, if you look at DC and Baltimore, and draw concentric circles from their centers, you would see that black families who want better for their families move out of the cities. The more money they make, the further out they go.
I absolutely hate the race angle on this article. It obscures the fact that anyone who enjoys their second amendment rights can be a target by the ATF.
Here is some good reference material for the "AFT" and "AFT agents" (at least that's what the PINO - President In Name Only - Biden calls them).
I have given this list to my city peace officer department and county sheriff's office to ensure they are aware of why this agency is not only anti-constitutional (a.k.a. ILLEGAL), but to also to provide demonstrable evidence why they are deserving of absolutely zero trust and support.
1) “ATF SWAT team raids parttime gun dealer’s Oklahoma home”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/atf-swat-team-raids-parttime-gun
2) “Oklahoma lawmaker demanding investigation into ATF SWAT team raid of constituent’s home”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/oklahoma-lawmaker-demanding-investigation
3) “Oklahoma state Rep knows how to stop ATF’s crimes, civil rights abuse, general thuggery”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/oklahoma-state-rep-knows-how-to-stop
4) “Oklahoma Sheriff’s Office investigating ATF’s SWAT team raid”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/oklahoma-sheriffs-office-investigating
5) “Oklahoma lawmaker wants grand jury to investigate ATF raid of constituent”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/oklahoma-lawmaker-wants-grand-jury
6) “Oklahoma gun dealer raided by ATF takes plea, but serious questions remain”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/oklahoma-gun-dealer-raided-by-atf
7) “ATF Executes Deadly “No Knock” on “Gun Show Loophole””
a) https://www.ammoland.com/2024/04/atf-executes-deadly-no-knock-on-gun-show-loophole/
8) “UPDATED: ATF SWAT raid that killed Arkansas man raises more questions of excessive force”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/atf-swat-raid-that-killed-arkansas
9) “Who will ATF shoot next?”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/who-will-atf-shoot-next
10) “Arkansas AG demands answers, bodycams from ATF over fatal SWAT raid”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/arkansas-ag-demanding-answers-bodycams
11) “Arkansas Senators: ATF did not use bodycams during fatal SWAT raid”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/arkansas-senators-atf-did-not-use
12) “Arkansas Attorney General suddenly mum about fatal ATF raid”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/arkansas-attorney-general-suddenly
13) “ANALYSIS: ATF agent who killed Little Rock airport executive will likely walk”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/analysis-atf-agent-who-killed-little
14) “ATF Director grilled about Malinowski killing during heated Congressional hearing”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/atf-director-grilled-about-malinowski
15) “ATF Caught Red Handed Illegally Copying FFL Information”
a) https://www.ammoland.com/2022/07/atf-caught-red-handed-illegally-copying-ffl-information/
16) “ATF raids endangering the lives of innocent Americans, again”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/atf-raids-endangering-the-lives-of
17) “SPECIAL REPORT: ATF Federal Firearm License revocations up a staggering 500%”
a) https://saf.org/special-report-atf-federal-firearm-license-revocations-up-a-staggering-500/
18) “Federal judge blasts ATF for its ‘heavy-handed exercise of revocations’”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/federal-judge-blasts-atf-for-its
19) “ATF intimidating another homebased gun dealer into surrendering license”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/atf-intimidating-another-homebased
20) “For Joe Biden’s weaponized ATF, homebased gun dealers are low-hanging fruit”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/for-joe-bidens-weaponized-atf-homebased
21) “The ATF Director and his mysterious 75-round clip”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/the-atf-director-and-his-mysterious
22) “ATF's poorly trained ‘operators’ are a threat to public safety”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/poorly-trained-atf-operators-are
23) “South Carolinian faced 115 years in prison until ATF admitted they got the wrong man”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/south-carolinian-faced-115-years
24) “The terror of a wrongful ATF raid”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/the-terror-of-a-wrongful-atf-raid
25) “Raid on Innocent Family Shows ATF Tyranny Must Be a Priority for Trump”
a) https://www.ammoland.com/2024/12/raid-on-innocent-family-shows-atf-tyranny-must-be-a-priority-for-trump/
26) “Hey ATF, what about Nikki Fried?”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/hey-atf-what-about-nikki-fried
27) “What will ATF criminalize next?”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/what-will-atf-criminalize-next
28) “Special Report: Biden weaponizing IRS into a well-armed paramilitary force”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/special-report-biden-weaponizing
29) “A rare win: ATF fails to revoke New Jersey gun dealer’s federal firearm license”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/a-rare-win-atf-fails-to-revoke-new
30) “How ATF is hoodwinking the media over its newfound interest in their war on gun dealers”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/how-atf-is-hoodwinking-the-media
31) “A warning to ATF: We will never forget your crimes”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/a-warning-to-atf-we-will-never-forget
32) “ATF’s pursuit of Larry Vickers is about headlines, not justice”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/atfs-pursuit-of-larry-vickers-is
33) “Biden’s war on ‘rogue’ gun dealers now a war on all gun dealers”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/bidens-war-on-rogue-gun-dealers-now
34) “2023 will be a banner year for the ATF, unfortunately”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/2023-will-be-a-banner-year-for-the
35) “ATF ignoring machinegun-toting thugs, will ban legally owned ARs instead”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/atf-ignoring-machinegun-toting-thugs
36) “ATF official: Federal prosecutors turning a blind eye to straw purchasers, again”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/atf-official-federal-prosecutors
37) “ATF inspector stops firearm purchase claiming buyer smelled of marijuana”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/atf-inspector-stops-firearm-purchase
38) “BREAKING: ATF almost complies with a federal law”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/breaking-atf-almost-complies-with
39) “Public strongly supporting Texas gun dealer targeted by ATF”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/public-strongly-supporting-texas
40) “ATF Whistleblower’s Book Gives Unique Insights into Fast and Furious ‘Gunwalking’
a) https://www.ammoland.com/2024/02/atf-whistleblowers-book-gives-unique-insights-into-fast-and-furious-gunwalking/
41) “Whistleblower Answers Questions About ATF/DOJ Fast and Furious Malfeasance”
a) https://www.ammoland.com/2024/02/whistleblower-answers-questions-about-atf-doj-fast-and-furious-malfeasance/
42) “Last week at the ATF … “
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/last-week-at-the-atf
43) “Bump Stock Return Will Reverse Roles Between Citizens & ATF”
a) https://waronguns.com/bump-stock-return-will-reverse-roles-between-citizens-atf/
44) “ATF Returns Bump Stock to Rightful Owner After Five-Year Legal Struggle”
a) https://waronguns.com/atf-returns-bump-stock-to-rightful-owner-after-five-year-legal-struggle/
45) “Secrets of the ATF”
a) https://waronguns.com/secrets-of-the-atf/
46) “ATF creates arbitrary 90-day window to return bump-stocks to original owners”
a) https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/atf-creates-arbitrary-90-day-window
47) “Breaking The Law In The Name Of The Law: The BATF Story”
a) https://waronguns.com/breaking-the-law-in-the-name-of-the-law-the-batf-story/
thanks, Scott.
That young 15 yo in basement? Angels watching over him.
I know, right. He is damn lucky he didn't get hurt or worse.
Agencies were created by Congress and were SUPPOSED to be overseen by Congress! This rogue nonsense has to be stopped!
Me thinks we're going to see that soon, like in 21 days.
Well I’m from Missouri
So I think nothing happens business as usual murdering thieving goon keep destroying and ransacking burning and murdering citizens
I would love to see the "sworn" statement to the ATF by the "known and reliable informant", as well as a record of the supporting information I'm sure they gathered to support the agent's sworn affidavit attached to the search warrant request. Won't be surprised to find out how much is nonexistent or based strictly on hearsay. Does the term "perjury" come to mind? I think the family's lawyer is going to have a field day with this case. Lee, please keep us up to date on this.
I definitely will, Paul.
Looks like a sure 4th amendment violation and possibly the 5th?
One of these days, the BATFE goons with their weapons of war will step into the kill zone of someone who's emplaced directional AP mines and other nasties. Those agents will fully deserve everything they get. Every time they do this, they bring us to the inevitable peasant revolt against their goonery. These jackbooted thugs at ATF need a hard lesson in How To Not Be A Raging Asshole.
I think they might "get" something from the Trump administration on this one.
I genuinely hope so but Trump’s track record is one of Long On Talk, Short On Action.
Which one of his neighbors called in the anonymous tip, which agents took the anonymous tip as gospel, and what idiot judge signed the warrant? Can you say LAWSUIT??
A lawsuit is definitely coming.
Yup so the tax donkeys pay for an out of control unconstitutional agency to terrorize citizens take it out of the commies pay and benefit funds
This type of raid has become the m.o. (modus operendi) of the ATF. Strike hard and violently in pre-dawn, with overwhelming numbers of agents (storm troopers) equipped for combat. Observation and fact finding prior not necessary. Treat women and children as enemy combatants; in fact, consider the entire family (and pets) to be criminals Cause total destruction of property. Do not hesitate to injure or kill victims (for the protection of the storm troopers).
The Founding Fathers had a keen sense of the dangers of a standing army. The ATF is far worse than the FF could have ever imagined. A government agency such as the ATF (and the FBI) has no place in a free America. Disband the ATF, FBI and disarm all other federal agencies.
💯🎯
There's another question that has to be answered. Where did the ATF get a complete list of firearms for Mr. Manley? Did they get it from the local police or the state police? If their warrant was federal, did they get the list from their illegal registry? Do we know?
Nothing says "Happy Thanksgiving!" like an ATF pre-dawn raid with multiple agents with assault weapons and an armored vehicle parked outside your house, resulting in a broken front door, a shell-shocked wife, scared-to-death kids, ruined floors, and dog shit everywhere.
Sounds to be not only was there four legged dogs shitting but 2 legged dog shit also on the scene