FIB has always had prior contact or info on islamic tourists, FIB creates domestic tourism using informants and agent provocateurs, as in MI "kidnapping the gubernor scam and then there's Jan 6th 2021 and the subsequent national dragnet for GasP!!! Trespassing!!! on the Mordor Kapitol.
But Lee is not quite there yet, I guess he missed Waco & Ruby Ridge too.
Everything you've written here has a grain of truth. But I see most of them as impractical, imprecise or too expensive. You can't force cops to read minds. Holding parents responsible for their kids' actions is just an invitation to MORE government intrusion into the family. I'm not ready to turn kids over to be raised by the state.
The idea of guardians or cops on campus sounds appealing - but it's not effective. At both Parkland and Uvalde the cops stood around outside while people were killed.
I also ran back-of-the-napkin numbers for how much it would cost to put two security officers in each K-12 school. Assuming they stopped 100% of all school shootings, the cost per life saved would be about $1,100,000,000. Yes, 1.1 BILLION per life. Contrast that with a life-saving organ transplant (ballpark $200,000) and to save 1 life in school shootings works out to be enough to save 5500 people via organ transplant. Is that a trade-off we're willing to make? The solution we need should be as close to zero cost as possible.
Arming the staff is a good idea generally. But I think the MOST effective action would be to stop differentiating schools from ordinary society. Concealed Carry Permit holders are less likely to commit felonies than the police who enforce laws or the legislatures that enact laws. (They are also 6 times LESS likely to shoot the WRONG person at the scene of a crime.) Allowing CCP holders to simply carry EVERYWHERE (including on campus) means that there's little difference to a psycho killer between a school and a grocery store. EVERY adult MIGHT be armed.
This is a greatly under-appreciated aspect of general firearm ownership. Wright and Rossi did a study where they interviewed thousands of convicted felons across 17 states. They found that about half had aborted an intended crime because they thought their victim MIGHT be armed. We have had mass shooters TELL US that they picked venues because they knew no one would be armed to oppose them. The Aurora Movie Theater shooting (2012) claimed 12 dead and 70 wounded. The killer passed several other closer theaters to settle on the Century Theater that prohibited gun possession. HIS DECISION TO HIT THAT THEATER WAS SUBSTANTIALLY INFLUENCED BY CENTURY THEATERS "NO GUNS" POLICY!
If you want to change the law, start there. Make any entity that prevents law-abiding citizens from carrying firearms for self-defense STRICTLY LIABLE for the results of that decision. So if you go to a hospital, a school, a post office - anywhere they ban firearms - and you are the victim of ANY crime where having the means to defend yourself would have helped, the premises owner is liable for all damages for loss, medical bills, pain and suffering, etc. Watch how quickly the "No Guns" signs go away.
Recall the coach at Parkland who interposed his own body between the shooter and kids? The guy was former military. Might his response have been different if he was allowed to be armed?
Might he not have drawn down on the killer, taken him out and saved lives? We'll never know. In all the cases to date the Florida Legislature has sided with the CRIMINALS. Why make it easy for mass shooters?
Finally, we should put school shootings in perspective. Yes, they're shocking. Absolutely they're evil. But they're also not nearly as deadly as the mainstream media would have us believe. I just ran the numbers the other day and came up with <17 deaths per year due to school shootings. While that's awful, compare it to your alcohol use number or better yet, the number of people who die in BICYCLE ACCIDENTS (818), SCHOOL BUS ACCIDENTS (138) or Drowning IN FIVE GALLON BUCKETS (27). In fact, more people die of Heat or Drought (112), Thunderstorms (107), Flooding (80) and Tornadoes (66 Y)ou're almost 4 times as likely to die from lightning (65) than in a school shooting.
Sure doesn't seem that way, does it? Thank the media for the never-ending blood dances. They have an anti-gun agenda and do not have any care at all for how many kids have to die to advance it.
Just to be fair, these things are less likely to kill you than school shootings.
Earthquake (9)
Terrorism (in the US) (5)
Shark Attack (1)
Again, media malfeasance probably had you thinking Terrorism and Shark Attack were more dangerous. That's partly because humans are TERRIBLE at assessing risk and the media motto is, "If it bleeds, it leads".
So, step on to deal with School Shooters: Restore the Second Amendment Right of citizens to carry firearms for their own defense and the defense of others. Rights do not stop at the school house door.
If We can send Billions of dollars overseas, and continue to ignore the problems here in the USA. It's Sad. Our Children's Lives are Worth whatever it Costs.
Unfortunately the Florida GOP will block any attempt to let teachers or even parents or even college students carry weapons on campus, whether public or private, and whether k-12 or college or university. And there won’t be consequences for them because the alternative is a demonrat.
GA got Constitutional Carry only because the State Repubs were scared of Stacey winning the governors seat. So after a decade of killing Constitutional Carry in legislative committee the Repubs passed it just before the sElections.
Asa former FL resident I'm impressed by the Repub gains made in FL, but it doesn't guarantee anything not forced down the politicians throats.
GA also has open carry without much consternation when seen occasionally.
Lee, stop making so much common sense! You might actually get people to think normally.
Fact of the matter: I raise my kids to respect people, respect what a firearm can do, educate them to know when to get away from bad people and bad scenarios and for the most part that can keep them safe.
Obviously not every other parent does the same which puts my family and kids in jeopardy! When can we start suing the parents and families of these shooters for lack of responsibility in the education of morals and ethics for their kids that resulted in this? A couple of multi million dollar law suits putting keeping people in poverty and I guaruntee parents will start stepping up!
School Shootings Started with wholesale Introduction of Psych Drugs for students. Psych Drugs are present in every shooting, but covered up. Just more Big Pharma at work.
They not only do not want to prevent school shootings, they (FIB) promote it, and "Tourist" Attacks as well. Welcome to the USSA, comrades.
Another Well Informing Article Lee. They are Blinded by Their Hate and Jealousy of Our Former President, Their only goal is to constantly Monitor Us. Law Abiding, Christian PATRIOTS. Thanks Lee.
I am there, Mr. Williams. I believe it. Its on the agenda for world domination and we are the ones to be dominated. Nice People with guns would be a severe impingement toward that goal. I also believe some of those shooters are chosen by anti gun movement. Did either of you hear about the MK Ultra program? This fits.
For example, while we essentially led the wave of "Shall Issue" permitting beginning in 1987, we are today one of only SIX states that doesn't have a provision in law for lawful open carry of firearms. (There are a few exceptions... but none that help with daily carry.)
In addition, CCP holders may not carry on school campuses.
Governor DeSantis has vowed to enact Constitutional Carry before he leaves office. We voted him all the support he should need. I'm waiting for him to do it.
Yes, true. Its why I dont feel safe in any gun free zone. At kids schools or games, we travel and I cannot take my firearm. So, on 75 from pt charlotte to parrish, with all the goofiness and strangeness, iI am unarmed. Im thankful for Systema which helps but as a 79 yr old small female, im not a good match for anyone unless its by surprise. I need strength multiplier.
Not clear on what restrictions you have regarding travel between Port Charlotte and Parrish. At first blush, restrictions should only apply on school grounds.
Had a discussion with the (pro-Second Amendment) UCF Police Chief some years back where he informed me that there's no restriction on traveling the roads that go through the UCF campus because they were public roads - but that parking in a UCF parking lot with a firearm was illegal. There might be something in that you can explore to see if you can reduce your exposure to anti-Constitutional areas.
On the bright side, you're not in New Yuck, Kalifornia, Taxachussetts, Minnie-sota or any other left-wing blue-state hell hole, so your risk of an incident is correspondingly less.
What makes you believe that THEY want to prevent "school shootings."
Good point. I'm not there yet, Ken, but I'm close.
Their Liberal policies are more of what to blame than a direct accusation, but I am a bit cynical, especially after the facts over Parkland came out.
The obama admin is responsible for that. Is that your information too?
FIB has always had prior contact or info on islamic tourists, FIB creates domestic tourism using informants and agent provocateurs, as in MI "kidnapping the gubernor scam and then there's Jan 6th 2021 and the subsequent national dragnet for GasP!!! Trespassing!!! on the Mordor Kapitol.
But Lee is not quite there yet, I guess he missed Waco & Ruby Ridge too.
Everything you've written here has a grain of truth. But I see most of them as impractical, imprecise or too expensive. You can't force cops to read minds. Holding parents responsible for their kids' actions is just an invitation to MORE government intrusion into the family. I'm not ready to turn kids over to be raised by the state.
The idea of guardians or cops on campus sounds appealing - but it's not effective. At both Parkland and Uvalde the cops stood around outside while people were killed.
I also ran back-of-the-napkin numbers for how much it would cost to put two security officers in each K-12 school. Assuming they stopped 100% of all school shootings, the cost per life saved would be about $1,100,000,000. Yes, 1.1 BILLION per life. Contrast that with a life-saving organ transplant (ballpark $200,000) and to save 1 life in school shootings works out to be enough to save 5500 people via organ transplant. Is that a trade-off we're willing to make? The solution we need should be as close to zero cost as possible.
Arming the staff is a good idea generally. But I think the MOST effective action would be to stop differentiating schools from ordinary society. Concealed Carry Permit holders are less likely to commit felonies than the police who enforce laws or the legislatures that enact laws. (They are also 6 times LESS likely to shoot the WRONG person at the scene of a crime.) Allowing CCP holders to simply carry EVERYWHERE (including on campus) means that there's little difference to a psycho killer between a school and a grocery store. EVERY adult MIGHT be armed.
This is a greatly under-appreciated aspect of general firearm ownership. Wright and Rossi did a study where they interviewed thousands of convicted felons across 17 states. They found that about half had aborted an intended crime because they thought their victim MIGHT be armed. We have had mass shooters TELL US that they picked venues because they knew no one would be armed to oppose them. The Aurora Movie Theater shooting (2012) claimed 12 dead and 70 wounded. The killer passed several other closer theaters to settle on the Century Theater that prohibited gun possession. HIS DECISION TO HIT THAT THEATER WAS SUBSTANTIALLY INFLUENCED BY CENTURY THEATERS "NO GUNS" POLICY!
If you want to change the law, start there. Make any entity that prevents law-abiding citizens from carrying firearms for self-defense STRICTLY LIABLE for the results of that decision. So if you go to a hospital, a school, a post office - anywhere they ban firearms - and you are the victim of ANY crime where having the means to defend yourself would have helped, the premises owner is liable for all damages for loss, medical bills, pain and suffering, etc. Watch how quickly the "No Guns" signs go away.
Recall the coach at Parkland who interposed his own body between the shooter and kids? The guy was former military. Might his response have been different if he was allowed to be armed?
Might he not have drawn down on the killer, taken him out and saved lives? We'll never know. In all the cases to date the Florida Legislature has sided with the CRIMINALS. Why make it easy for mass shooters?
Finally, we should put school shootings in perspective. Yes, they're shocking. Absolutely they're evil. But they're also not nearly as deadly as the mainstream media would have us believe. I just ran the numbers the other day and came up with <17 deaths per year due to school shootings. While that's awful, compare it to your alcohol use number or better yet, the number of people who die in BICYCLE ACCIDENTS (818), SCHOOL BUS ACCIDENTS (138) or Drowning IN FIVE GALLON BUCKETS (27). In fact, more people die of Heat or Drought (112), Thunderstorms (107), Flooding (80) and Tornadoes (66 Y)ou're almost 4 times as likely to die from lightning (65) than in a school shooting.
Sure doesn't seem that way, does it? Thank the media for the never-ending blood dances. They have an anti-gun agenda and do not have any care at all for how many kids have to die to advance it.
Just to be fair, these things are less likely to kill you than school shootings.
Earthquake (9)
Terrorism (in the US) (5)
Shark Attack (1)
Again, media malfeasance probably had you thinking Terrorism and Shark Attack were more dangerous. That's partly because humans are TERRIBLE at assessing risk and the media motto is, "If it bleeds, it leads".
So, step on to deal with School Shooters: Restore the Second Amendment Right of citizens to carry firearms for their own defense and the defense of others. Rights do not stop at the school house door.
If We can send Billions of dollars overseas, and continue to ignore the problems here in the USA. It's Sad. Our Children's Lives are Worth whatever it Costs.
Unfortunately the Florida GOP will block any attempt to let teachers or even parents or even college students carry weapons on campus, whether public or private, and whether k-12 or college or university. And there won’t be consequences for them because the alternative is a demonrat.
Agreed. We, gun owners, only matter to them during primaries.
GA got Constitutional Carry only because the State Repubs were scared of Stacey winning the governors seat. So after a decade of killing Constitutional Carry in legislative committee the Repubs passed it just before the sElections.
Asa former FL resident I'm impressed by the Repub gains made in FL, but it doesn't guarantee anything not forced down the politicians throats.
GA also has open carry without much consternation when seen occasionally.
Lee, stop making so much common sense! You might actually get people to think normally.
Fact of the matter: I raise my kids to respect people, respect what a firearm can do, educate them to know when to get away from bad people and bad scenarios and for the most part that can keep them safe.
Obviously not every other parent does the same which puts my family and kids in jeopardy! When can we start suing the parents and families of these shooters for lack of responsibility in the education of morals and ethics for their kids that resulted in this? A couple of multi million dollar law suits putting keeping people in poverty and I guaruntee parents will start stepping up!
Thanks, Jerry. I really appreciate it.
Everything you propose is on point, and would be effective. It is sad that these solutions will not be embraced.
School Shootings Started with wholesale Introduction of Psych Drugs for students. Psych Drugs are present in every shooting, but covered up. Just more Big Pharma at work.
They not only do not want to prevent school shootings, they (FIB) promote it, and "Tourist" Attacks as well. Welcome to the USSA, comrades.
No not a typo.
https://genearly.substack.com/p/what-is-really-left-to-say?sd=pf
Another Well Informing Article Lee. They are Blinded by Their Hate and Jealousy of Our Former President, Their only goal is to constantly Monitor Us. Law Abiding, Christian PATRIOTS. Thanks Lee.
I am there, Mr. Williams. I believe it. Its on the agenda for world domination and we are the ones to be dominated. Nice People with guns would be a severe impingement toward that goal. I also believe some of those shooters are chosen by anti gun movement. Did either of you hear about the MK Ultra program? This fits.
Thanks, brother!!!
I've lived in Florida for over 30 years.
Florida gets SOME things, but not others.
For example, while we essentially led the wave of "Shall Issue" permitting beginning in 1987, we are today one of only SIX states that doesn't have a provision in law for lawful open carry of firearms. (There are a few exceptions... but none that help with daily carry.)
In addition, CCP holders may not carry on school campuses.
Governor DeSantis has vowed to enact Constitutional Carry before he leaves office. We voted him all the support he should need. I'm waiting for him to do it.
Yes, true. Its why I dont feel safe in any gun free zone. At kids schools or games, we travel and I cannot take my firearm. So, on 75 from pt charlotte to parrish, with all the goofiness and strangeness, iI am unarmed. Im thankful for Systema which helps but as a 79 yr old small female, im not a good match for anyone unless its by surprise. I need strength multiplier.
Not clear on what restrictions you have regarding travel between Port Charlotte and Parrish. At first blush, restrictions should only apply on school grounds.
Had a discussion with the (pro-Second Amendment) UCF Police Chief some years back where he informed me that there's no restriction on traveling the roads that go through the UCF campus because they were public roads - but that parking in a UCF parking lot with a firearm was illegal. There might be something in that you can explore to see if you can reduce your exposure to anti-Constitutional areas.
On the bright side, you're not in New Yuck, Kalifornia, Taxachussetts, Minnie-sota or any other left-wing blue-state hell hole, so your risk of an incident is correspondingly less.