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Ken Windeler's avatar

The first step would be to dismantle the Department of Homeland Security and put the respective agencies back into the Departments they were originally.

While closing the ATF (BATFE) sounds like a good idea we would still have the NFA and GCA 68, which should be repealed, (Yeah, I know wishful thinking), and all the rules and regulations involved within, I cannot help but think the ATF's authority would just be shuttled to another agency, the FBI?

I can't see our government giving up any of the "control" they have over "We the People." There's just too damn many Republicans that feel obligated to throw in with the Democrats on issues and I doubt it we'd could get a consensus on eliminating the ATF

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Iris Weston's avatar

"I can't see our government giving up any of the "control" they have over "We the People.""

Bullseye.

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Arthur Sido's avatar

What is really concerning is that this is one of the worst things the ATF has done that we know about. How many people have they jailed and ruined over the years that no one has heard of, especially in the pre-internet days? This agency has been roughing roughshod for decades and is irredeemable at this point.

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BnK's avatar

With Kash Patel becoming “Acting Director” of the ATF, and AG Bondi firing the ATF’s General Counsel, it appears that really big changes are coming to the ever corrupt ATF goon squad! Hopefully they can undo this Bull$hit hit job on one of America’s great war fighters!

The damage O’Bamiden did to this country over the last 4 years is just criminal! We need to start locking up ATF agents for their malfeasance in concocting BS evidence that results in convicting a completely innocent citizen for nothing more than political scare tactics! The real criminal is this lowlife ATF goon!

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J R's avatar

Yes but arrest trial then execution like they did many innocent citizens with kick in the door raid in middle of night.

I’m not for paying 3 square meals a day in a country club prison. Execution is the answer they swore and oath the never practiced then close the agency and salt the wart like A S stated. Definitely yet the same middle of night tactics against them and there families, watch the Bull shit slow down then.

Hell yeah

Then there’s real Justice

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Scott Jessen's avatar

So, if the replica STEN, open-bolt firing firearms, cut-in-half receivers, etc. “ARE” machineguns and so dangerous, what are the ATF’s plans to "crack down" on every other citizen who happens to own one and the people who sold/sell them?

If they do not pursue those further actions, does that not demonstrate “selective enforcement”?

Or, is it just their latest promulgation of a new “rule”/law?

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Jim Foster's avatar

🪦absolutely…..the gestapo kgb cia anti American

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FreedomFighter's avatar

I believe that President Trump has appointed AG Kash Patel as temporary head of the ATF. Hopefully the AG will have some time to examine ATF operations, in addition to turning the FBI. At the very least, both organizations need some serious attention, as they have been weaponized (literally) against law abiding citizens. No matter what Trump and Patel do about the ATF, I am in favor of abolishing that rogue agency.

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Chris's avatar

Why isn't any State's Attorney General prosecuting these agents for deprivation of rights under color of law??

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CATHERINE's avatar

So.

Exactly what did Adamiak do for

ATF to burn him so badly?

And why were these absurd charges against him allowed to stand?

The apparent incompetence of his legal representation beggars belief.

He is clearly being punished for something else.

What could it be?

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Dave's avatar

Why is his pardon taking so long?

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jtrudel trudelgroup.com's avatar

"So, why is Adamiak serving 20 years in a federal prison? Quite frankly, it’s because the ATF screwed up bigly and would rather incarcerate a completely innocent man than look foolish for believing the lies their informant—who was working off real criminal charges—told them.

This, folks, is as bad as law enforcement can get. The ATF is a sick joke and should be shuttered permanently, because ATF agents would rather charge a completely innocent man with bogus federal felonies and lie under oath than admit that they screwed up.

And lie under oath the ATF certainly did, none more so than ATF Firearms Enforcement Officer Jeffrey Bodell."

We have 2A rights in America. Let's get back to that. Without 1A rights, we are slaves. Without 2A rights we won't have either 1A or 2A rights. GOD BLESS AMERICA. THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE is coming back.

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Bestoink's avatar

This story drives me nuts. What in the world can we do for this man?

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Percey Blakeney's avatar

The problem is worse than about 99.9% of the public, INCLUDING all but a VERY rare few, a small percentage of attorneys, understand.

For example, the ATF participated in the enforcement of gun free zones. The ones LGB bragged about, during his basement campaign, getting in place.

HOWEVER, LGB failed, conveniently, to mention the U.S. Supreme Court struck those laws/zones down in U.S. v LOPEZ (1995). As the LOPEZ Court said, "[s]chools have nothing to do with INTERstate commerce, the only authority under which CONgress could have enacted such laws." (emphasis added).

In other words, gun free zones in the states and enacted by Congress were never laws at all, because Congress, thus the agencies that came out of its enactments, lacked authority to impose themselves on the several, united states in anything other than INTERstate commerce issues.

This means, the ATF has ZERO authority over guns lawfully purchased, so no longer in INTERstate commerce.

The aforementioned facts are bolstered by three other major decisions issued in recent times:

(1) WEED LAWS - Once upon a recent time, the ATF used to run into the several states where it tossed about unsubstantiated presumptions of INTERstate commerce, and it used those fabricated presumptions to arrest state citizens and steal all they owned. That is, until states made such things legal.

Then, even as the feds yet alleged such things were illegal, they quit their overreach, knowing THEY could be arrested, because their agents were acting outside their scope of authority.

(2) STATES RIGHTS REGARDING THE ROE ISSUE - Back to that states' power thing. That other separation of powers too seldom spoken of, but no less critical than the checks and balances of the three branches.

(3) CDC SLAP-DOWN - And we can go to the recent, covid related slap down of the CDC, when it did what agencies are prohibited from doing - adding to or taking from the law.

In reality, it, ALL, boils down to that these are proofs of why we have not just one, but fifty-one constitutions. That is, public agents cannot be trusted.

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Southern Gentleman's avatar

Defund all federal agencies especially ATF

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Yahya Amir's avatar

Scary stuff

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Nun obizness's avatar

Lee. You should reach out to @civilrightslawyer on youtube. Maybe you guys could do a collaboration on this story.

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