ATF’s vagueness on frame and receiver rule harming businesses, gun rights
Credit card firms questioning homemade gun parts retailers.
by Lee Williams
Companies selling 80% receivers and other homemade firearm parts have been getting uncomfortable calls and questions from their credit card firms and payment processors. Their ability to process payments could soon end, they’re being told.
Grid Defense, formerly Ghost Firearms, which is located in Daytona Beach, Florida, got a call from their Mastercard payment processor Wednesday.
“We were told we may be violating some of their policies regarding ATF’s new frame and receiver rule,” said TJ, co-owner of Grid Defense.
To be clear, he does not blame their payment processor or even Mastercard. He blames the ATF for not providing accurate and timely guidance. Of course, his biggest concern is what will come next — when will the ATF tell the financial industry that ARs or even ammunition should not be purchased with credit cards.
“The ATF is not being clear about their frame and receiver rule, which went into effect last month, so they’re causing private companies to be confused about their ruling, and it is going to negatively affect this industry,” he said. “The ATF likes to muddy the waters with confusion, and it’s starting to effect American commerce and the Second Amendment. I hope these large financial companies choose to support the Second Amendment. If they don’t and the ATF will muddy the waters over unfinished receivers, what will be next?”
For his business, the frame and receiver rule is relatively simple, TJ said. The 80% AR receivers he sells do not come with drilling jigs or finishing instructions. As such, they’re considered an unfinished receiver and not a firearm.
“As far as the federal government will tell you — the ways they’ve described the rule — unfinished receivers without a jig or finishing instructions remain fully legal and not a firearm,” TJ said. “Nothing has theoretically changed since the way business was done previously, with respect to the aluminum 80% AR-type receivers.”
Grid Defense has already received several determination letters from the ATF, and recently submitted several more determination requests.
“The ATF is not answering those, which is causing private financial companies to react even though it’s not necessarily the law, because of the ATF’s unwillingness to give further guidance on the matter,” TJ said. “We are fortunate. We believe our payment processor is 2A-friendly and that they are on board with disputing allegations that we are violating the rules. We have worked with them, but we believe Mastercard may not understand it and is not getting the correct guidance from the ATF.”
Grid Defense has reached out to other businesses offering similar products, and was told they, too, are being questioned.
“We can still sell and ship products to customers. We can still do it,” TJ said. “There’s no reason we’re not allowed to take payment processing for them.”
ATF Public Information Officers in Florida did not return calls seeking comment for this story.
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The problem isn't that the ATF isn't providing accurate and timely guidance - it's that the ATF is 'PROVIDING GUIDANCE'. The ATF is NOT supposed to interpret the law and let people know what it says. It's supposed to follow the law and enforce it.
Congress is supposed to provide the correct and clear legislation and oversight, NOT the ATF.
Just remember this Joe Biden told U.S. that He was going to end online sales of firearms and "ammunition," and He is effectively doing so. And THEY will do anything to get away with this.
Grandpa's old Ithaca needs a tune up, but now you cannot (as far as I can tell) send it off to get serviced unless you ship it through an FFL. Okay it's a long gun I could mail it but don't expect for these dirt bags not to change that too.
So, they've curtailed how we can ship, and the credit card processor can deny an online sale and I suppose a point of sale transaction.